Climate Change,Housing and Communities Scrutiny Panel - Thursday 12 February 2026, 6:00pm - City of Wolverhampton Council Webcasting
Climate Change,Housing and Communities Scrutiny Panel
Thursday, 12th February 2026 at 6:00pm
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1 Apologies and Notification of Substitutions
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2 Declarations of interest
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4 Fly tipping - update on progress
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5 Community Safety - PSPO
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6 Wolverhampton Homes ASB update
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7 You Said – We Did – Work Programme 205- 2026
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Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:00:05
Good evening and welcome to this meeting of the Climate Change Housing and Community1 Apologies and Notification of Substitutions
Scrutiny Panel. My name is Councillor Barbara McGarrity and I'm a chair of the panel. I'd
like to welcome Chief Inspector Richard Evans representing Wolverhampton Local Policing
area and he will be contributing to the discussion on PSPO agenda item and Angela Barnes, Director
of Homes and Communities and Claire Gwynne, ASB Service Manager, Wolverhampton Homes to
the meeting. I would also like to welcome anyone watching the meeting online. This meeting
is live screened via the council's website and will be available for
viewing after the meeting has taken place. The press and the public can
record this meeting and take photographs. I just want to add anyone who has paper
copies of this meeting there might be small changes to the meeting that we
weren't able to to change. But the following are proceedings for everyone
attending the meeting. Please keep your microphones on mute unless you have been
invited by the chair to speak. Please state your name before you make a
comment or ask a question. Please do not speak over one another. I'll bring you
into the meeting at an appropriate time and if you refer into a specific
document clearly state the title and page number. Agenda item one apologies
and substitutions we will now move to the business items. Errol are there any
Earl Piggott Smith - 0:01:53
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:01:55
apologies or substitutions submitted for absence? Thank you chair we've receivedEarl Piggott Smith - 0:01:56
apologies from Councillor Lavinia Daly, Sally Green, John Reynolds, no otherapologies received chair. Thank you. Declarations of interest are there any
3 Minutes of the previous meeting (27.11.25)
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councillors who wish to declare an interest in relation to any matter on2 Declarations of interest
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the agenda? Okay thank you. The minutes of the meeting on the 27th of November thepanel are asked to approve the draught meetings of the 27th of November 2025 as
correct record. Can I have a proposer? Thank you and a seconder? Thank you.
4 Fly tipping - update on progress
Those in favour? Thank you. Okay we're moving on. Fly tipping. Update on progress. I'd
like to invite Claire Walters, Deputy Director of Environmental and Regulation
Services to present the report
Is it you John
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:03:01
Yes, yes, if that's okay chair certainly thank you proceedYeah, I'll just introduce the item if that's that's okay with each other, thank you
John Roseblade - 0:03:15
Yeah, one of the issues that causes us many headaches creates a lot of casework for councillors and more importantlyIs something that our residents really care about so we've seen you know nationally
There are and Claire's going to talk about the statistics of this but nationally their flight. It is a real concern. So
I'm trying to remember the last time we came to the panel with an update on flight it but I know there was a
Request through the chair and the panel for a fairly regular update on where we are
So Claire and the team have put together a presentation. We've included some statistics in there including statistics on how we
Stack up against some of our some of our neighbouring authorities
there's information in there about
how we tackle fly tipping and
specifically look at how we prosecute and take legal action and then there is also
An item at the end of the presentation which talks about our new approach using the love your community neighbourhood team
and I think I'm hoping you enjoy that.
Okay, chair, I'm gonna hand over to Claire.
Thank you, like Claire.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:04:28
Claire Walters - 0:04:30
Thanks, John, thanks, chair.So today, as John says, we're gonna cover
current statistics and trends that we're seeing
within fly tipping across the city.
Mind everybody how we manage our fly tips
and some of the digital improvements
that we've made around that this year.
Tom will then talk about some of our enforcement performance and how successful we've been on that.
And as John says, just as a little bookend to that, we're going to talk about the lovely community neighbourhood team,
how that feeds into flight, keeping in education.
And we've got some images, comments from residents and a little video to show everybody.
So current stats and trends. Before I click on to the next slide,
I can't tell you how incredibly proud I am about the numbers on the slides that I'm just about to show you.
It shows the incredible dedication and commitment that Tom's team and the street scene fly tipping team
are doing in terms of making sure that as Wolverhampton, we are telling people that we are not standing for this
and we are really strong on enforcement and how we deal with fly tips.
So compared January, December 2024 to January, December 2025, we've actually seen a 20 % decrease in the items fly tipped across the city.
So that's how many pieces of fly tips that we're picking up.
So in terms of the jobs completed, as you can see, they're pretty much consistent, but the amount of bagged waste and fly tipping that's on the streets is decreasing.
So the percentage of bagged waste which is one of the things we see most
In terms of what we pick up is a 6 % decrease
So floating into seek reduce significantly over the last year
Well, the number of jobs that I've just said attended a stay broadly the same the amount of flight material
collected that we fell by
1850 items so that's a 20 % reduction on what we saw last year
The biggest improvement which is the the slightly pink shaded bit in the middle
shows that the biggest improvements in terms of what we picked up we're seeing
over the summer months June to September when Flight of Emirates is
lowest for several years. Why that is significant is we normally see a rise in
that summer holidays and people are clearing out and it's it's landlords who
are emptying houses for students to come in so to make the improvements that we
have made in that timescale is phenomenal and it's again it feeds into
the the impact we've seen in terms of the approach that Wolverhampton Council
has. So one of the things that obviously feeds into that is our fixed penalties
and prosecutions. Tom's going to talk you through some of the details of that a
little bit later. Well as you all know we run our Shoppertipper campaign which we
We encourage residents to tell us and give us information about who is fly tipping.
If that leads to a successful FPM being paid, we will give that resident a £100 gift voucher.
So in 2025 we actually gave it £2500 gift vouchers.
That's great, that's the best we've seen so far in terms of people engaging with the scheme
and that's to do with the comms and the constant flow of information that we're giving people.
the team issued 51 ,000 pound fixed penalty notices.
That gets reduced to 500 pounds if paid within 14 days.
We always sort of caveat, the FPNs are for the less serious offences, more of the domestic fly tipping.
For any big commercial fly tips or fly tips that cost more than the FPN to remove, we would always consider legal action for those.
So in that time 28 500 pound fixed penalty notices were paid and the others from 2024 were settled,
amounting to nearly £15 ,000 in fines from Flytipping which gets reinvested into the team
and we can look at things like purchasing more cameras and investing in technology and target hardening
so we can stop Flytipping being in unadapted land etc.
So during the year 2025, which I think is slightly different to the version that you've got, we've double checked it.
We did 17 prosecutions for fly tipping, duty of care, absurdities and obstruction.
Tom's going to talk you through the differences in terms of those in a minute.
So we've got a further six cases that are currently with our legal services and that will be heard in March and April this year.
So we never stop in this we're constantly feeding our legal team with
Information and
Offences to to prosecute again. I love this slide
So
So when we compare ourselves to our neighbouring authorities
As you can see in terms of flight have been fpns issued
We've done 51 sandwell tonight did leave to 19 Warsaw
We've done 11. We've done 28 flighty FPNs paid. It's important to just caveat that
that doesn't mean the others were left unpaid. If people don't pay, we then take
them the next step and we take them to court. So we don't just not let people
pay their FPNs, we move them through the legal process. Compare that to our
neighbours, which there's only one in Dudley that's been paid. 17 convictions,
two in Sandwell and we've seized six vehicles used for fly tipping and it's
only Warsaw who have seized one vehicle.
Did you want to come in there?
No.
Oh I thought you were waving.
So that again just shows how the years of the approach, the shopper tipper,
the being led by intelligence and using data to really finesse how we deal with
things is really paying off and we've seen that in Wolverhampton at the moment. So just thought
it'd be useful for today to say how we manage our fly tips and some of the background stuff that you
don't always see, you just see the stuff being removed from the seat. So on average, and this
is a shocking slide.
We have about 430 reports of fly tipping a month.
That's phenomenal.
And that doesn't include what our teams see
and pick up without it being reported as well.
We don't drive past the fly tip and say,
oh, that hasn't been reported, we're gonna leave it there.
We proactively pick up as well.
So that's a lot of fly tipping to manage and deal with.
So how we manage that is a lot of the stuff goes from love clean streets
into our backend system called confirm and
When they're reported they go directly to our rapid response team in the field and they see them straightaway
the address and photos if the resident or the reporter is sent them in and
Because they go automatically into our system the rapid response team have immediate access to them and
and internal SLAs we aim to respond to flight tipping reports within five working days and we achieve that 94 % of the time in the
quarter
Urgent reports are prioritised and responded to with one working day and I've just given a little
Demonstration there of what we would consider urgent. So any flight keep impacting the highway. So anything that's stopping traffic moving
If we've got big events on in the city, and we know we're going to have lots of visitors
We make sure that obviously they have a great first impression of the team. So we make sure anything that's impacting major
Commuter or visitor routes that's moved hazardous materials
Obviously we pick up as soon as we get them and those large commercial flight tips requiring the involvement in the environment agency
routine ones that we do within the five working days are flight tips on footpaths and open spaces and what we class as sideways which is
excess waste that residents put outside of their bin that doesn't get taken as part of them.
But what we're learning is that actually why the five days, why have we got that SLA and
this bit is really important. If we pick floating off the streets too quickly the message to our
residents is this is a brilliant way to get rid of all my waste. I just dump it out here and the
great people from the council come and move it and it's perfect. If we leave it too long
this council doesn't deal with fly tipping, it's a disgrace. So there's actually a nice
little sweet spot in the middle which is about two to three days which leaves the fly tipping
there long enough for us to have an opportunity to sticker it, to say it is wrong and to say
that we are investigating it so everybody knows that it's the wrong thing to do. But
also doesn't reinforce and it's a really good, quick, cheap way to get rid of your rubbish.
So that's why we aim to do the two to three days window and that's why we don't aim to
remove all fly tips within one day because we feel it could create different problems
for us.
So, I'm just going to pass over to Tom quickly here because Tom leads on the enforcement
and the investigation team for our fly tipping and he will talk you through the great work
that they've done in terms of enforcement.
Good evening all, I'm Tom Hawkins,
Fly Tipping Section Lead.
So in, thank you, in 2025,
we saw 17 successful fly tipping related prosecutions.
Seven of those were for section 33
of the Environmental Protection Act 1990,
fly tipping offences which is depositing controlled waste,
knowingly causing or permitting controlled waste as we would call it waste on land that isn't licenced to receive it
we've had
nine prosecutions for
Section 110 obstruction offences. This is where we've got a link to the waste
Somebody's name and address amongst it for instance, or we see somebody coming out of a household
We contact them to try and gather some information and they ignore us
So we'll prosecute them for obstructing our investigation
One for duty of care which is unfortunately when people pay a man in a van type 50 quid
to take their waste away and it ends up getting dumped and they haven't done their due diligence
in checking that they're a bona fide person and that they've been prosecuted for that
and
No waste carriers licence, which is
transporting waste without the appropriate licence
We've had five
There's four there were five warrants for arrest issued in 2025 where
defendants haven't attended court
For their hearing date. We have approached the police and they are going to look to to start arresting those people
so hopefully we'll get some results in the coming weeks.
And we've seized six vehicles in relation to fly tipping offences.
Two of those were crushed, two returned when the cases were resolved,
either in court or by way of fixed penalty payment,
and the others are in storage awaiting an outcome.
Claire Walters - 0:16:21
and theavenues that we are doing in terms of the success that we
are having, it is not just the flight
tipping thing, we are using the obstruction and the duty of
care all goes together to form a piece in terms of as residents,
we are responsible for getting rid of our waste legally, and
and using like your manning your vans and things is no excuse that they take it over and float it.
We've got a responsibility to cheque that.
So it's really important that we use a variety of tools at our disposal in terms of our enforcement.
So another thing that really is helping our figures across the city is we are really keen to make it absolutely crystal clear
that we will catch you and we will prosecute you for fly tipping, it's not
the right thing to do. So we continue to utilise local and social media to
highlight enforcement action against fly tipping, reinforce the deterrent messages
and promote the correct reporting routes around fly tipping. So this helps
reassure residents that fly tipping is actively investigated and dealt with and
supports wider prevalence and prevention and compliance. It must be
It's devastating to live on the streets where people are constantly flighty and seeing that every day.
So for those residents, it's a great reassurance that we are doing it and we are on top of it.
And for those who are doing it, that we're going to catch them.
So we use a variety of means to do that.
So for example, like an overview of last year, we did over 15 posts on Wolverhampton today,
around the vehicles, reporting fly tipping and caught on camera.
We show the camera and the CCTV images of what we've caught.
We've had 10 plus articles make their way into the Express and Star
in terms of what we put there.
And regional BBC have done 10 over 10 features on us
in terms of fly tipping crackdown.
It's not on here, but also a couple of weeks ago,
Councillor Gackal, who's our cabinet member
for fly tipping was on French TV.
And he was talking because they were really interested
in Wolverhampton's approach and our Shoppa Tippa campaign,
encouraging residents to help us identify
those who were fly tipping.
So not only are we saturating the local media,
we've also gone international, Wolverhampton has,
in terms of what we're doing
and how we approach now fly tipping.
Again, testament to the great work from comms and the team
to keep those messages out there.
So just before we move on
to the lovely community neighbourhood team,
as you know, we are not ones to sit back and be complacent.
We are going to launch the online FPM payment portal.
We're hoping this will increase the numbers
of fines paid promptly,
that people will be able to log onto a website
and pay their fines rather than the ways
they're doing at the minute.
We are launching the online shop a tipper website where we will put pictures and images
and CCTV recordings of people who are flighty and asking people to get in contact and tell
us who they think this might be.
This is as well as going to be in terms of the leafleting and the posturing that we do
at the moment.
It's another stream to our bow.
We are constantly developing the Love Clean Streets app to improve the distinction between
public and private lands so it's less confusing for residents about why we
don't clear flight off private land and we do on public and introduction of an
SLA and service delivery when so when you put a report through Love Clean
Streets it tells you how long you can expect to wait for the flight
tipping to be removed. So you can't fail to have noticed our lovely community
neighbourhood teams out and about. We launched this on the 26th of January. This is our third
week. We're in Grazley and Merridale Street West as we speak. We'll be finishing up on
there tomorrow. And we just thought it would be really useful and for you guys to see some
of the images and some of the comments that we've made. So Martin, if you could forward
forward to the video and then we'll swap to the other presentation please just for some of the
the comments
Claire Walters - 0:21:54
So that's just an example of the videos that we're putting out on social media.It's gratuitous that MJ is here tonight with us as well because the community engagement
team within MJ's team are with us on this and they're so important in terms of engaging
the community, knocking people's doors, talking to them about how to deposit waste, about
flow tipping etc so just wanted to put up the can we put up the other
presentation sorry and just to give you an example of there we go so that's the
team and that's an example of the post that we're putting up that was before
we'd started so there that was that horribly freezing cold week with that
horrible rain, it was terrible that was our first week, but that's just how dedicated
these guys are. And again, little short videos saying where we are and what we're doing,
they've been very well received. Some of the work that obviously that we're faced with,
we let everybody know a week or two before that we're in their streets that we're coming
so we can ask them to move their cars, so we can properly deep clean the streets because
We really struggle in some of these streets because of the constant parking there to get them deep cleaned.
So we've advertised that we're coming, which is really important.
Again, this is MJ's amazing community engagement team and they've been door knocking and finding out what really matters to our residents and what they want us to do while we're there.
Some before and after pics. Some of the stuff that the team have been faced with has been a lot of fly tipping and rubbish but they're dedicated to get it done.
That's our van on there but these are the things I really wanted to show you tonight.
So these are the comments that have been put under the Wolverhampton Today posts.
I would love to draw your attention to Moira McDonald that says please please
come to Birmingham. So that's yeah that was really lovely to you know that was
really lovely to see and well done to everybody everybody is so grateful and
can really see the benefit and you know it's a really nice it's a good point
I hope the community keeps it clean as it is up to them.
That is why the engagement is so important.
We are giving these communities clean slates, we are tidying this all up.
It is a joint enterprise, it is up to people not to drop litter,
get involved in community litter picks and keep the environment in which they live clean and green.
That is all I have to show today.
but I hope you can see that once again a really successful year for the team and
really proud of what they've achieved and happy to take any questions that
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:25:00
anybody might have. Thank you very much for that presentation it's reallyencouraging, a really good news storey and could you take back to the team our
thanks, our grateful thanks for everything and showing us that little
clips being great and as you say we've gone international now so wow.
Just a question before I open it up to the members, how many cameras do you have?
So around 15 at the moment we're hoping to acquire some more resources are
always welcome to tackle this issue but we do have issues unfortunately with
occasionally they get vandalised and unplugged and so forth so we do sometimes have a few
out of action but it's between 10 and 15 are out currently.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:25:54
Okay thanks Tom, do you think you would come under ASB so kind of the behaviour of dumpingstuff would be seen as antisocial behaviour so could the cameras be used as a kind of
double edge?
I was a bit cited specifically for looking at fly tipping up if they did
happen to capture something else that say the ASB team or the police were
interested in we'd share the footage with them but we we've got to be very
careful when we when we put cameras up and we've got to justify the need for a
camera in a certain area and we always look at data and around the these hot
spots areas regarding how many incidents they've had in the severity of the
incidents and so forth and very conscious before we do put them up we
have to fill a form out to justify each each location okay thank you for that
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:26:53
Cllr Ciaran Brackenridge - 0:26:58
Tom. Councillor Brackenbridge. Thank you chair I think you do okay now I know it'sobviously very good and I always say when it comes to either a local or
national perspective of working in the community and bringing out policy. The pinnacle you're
looking for is the word undeniable and for me that's what this is. So I have two questions,
before the questions there's a comment on you've talked about the communication a lot.
It seemed to me the communication was a lot about whenever somebody is punished or gets
found out. I was wondering if you have a plan to just shell casing the positive data you've
put forward. Now there's two specific questions I have is in regards to love your community.
So what process decides what area of a certain ward is essentially utilised and receives support?
And the second question about lovely communities is it seems to me it would be a brilliant opportunity to get youth involvement, or youth involved, whether it's volunteering.
or you know when I was 15 now 14 15 years old and you in that CV personal
statement building now to go into each college the learning city new city
learning quarter and they're getting new volunteers to come here it's the leaflet
in the door knocking might be a bit safeguarding issue but now I feel like
this is a really good opportunity to get some of the youth in Wolverhampton now
building up their CVS and personal statements and so is there any kind of
plans or initiatives for that
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:28:24
John Roseblade - 0:28:26
Okay, thank you John. Thank you, Chen, thank you, Councillor. So just on a couple of points,very much so on the positive communications. So there will be roundups of things that have
happened over the years and equally about the statistics. So DEFRA produce national
statistics every year. They come out around about the end of February. So we sort of sit
entire whole we think we've done well let's hope the statistics bear that out
and especially in comparison with other our other local authorities because I
know how hard the teamwork in terms of where we're using or where we're
programming the work for the love your community team that is very much data
driven so we're looking at if you think about the the actual intention of that
team and it was resourced to provide a dedicated number of officers together
with support from other services that could go into communities that actually
need some love and attention so you could see by some of the before photos
in that video and in the clips they're areas that are not looked after and as
you say I think Claire said it's it's it's relatively easy if you've got the
waste but if you don't fundamentally change hearts and minds and you don't change people's
behaviours it's quickly just going to get back to where it was so the idea behind that
team is that they actually get into communities and say with the help of Mary Jane's team
and some of the skilled officers she's got properly engaging with communities and creating
that bit of a legacy creating that pride in place that is what we're trying to do here
is shifting the dial and shifting the approach so it's very much about
directing that in those communities that need it so we'll use data we use numbers
of complaints we'll use numbers of fine -tipping intelligence from Mary Jane
and the police about where that might be useful to go in so as I say very much
data and intelligence led and absolutely hit the nail on the head with
volunteering so you'll have seen Steve Nightingale as well and you know he's
done some sterling work on encouraging the voluntary sector in litter, get people
out litter picking and getting the children involved, getting schools
involved, it's very much if we can lean into that as well and I don't know if you want to add anything in terms of the
Claire Walters - 0:31:06
the voluntary sector that we're leaning into. Thanks Sean. We're on week three, we arelearning all the time about this.
It's a year long project, but what we are,
we're gonna forward plan a lot further ahead,
if that makes sense.
So we've been doing two or three weeks ahead at the moment.
So we're looking to do four, six weeks ahead
in terms of where we're gonna be in terms of the data.
So we can get those messages out early
to counsellors, to schools, to colleges
in and around those areas.
So we say, we're gonna be in your neighbourhood
on this day please come and join us so we can give people a lot more forward
notice who can come here to contact and arrange to do some litter picking.
Already got some links into the college we hope and the University so we're
hoping to see that but it's a year -long it's a year -long pilot I mean hopefully
it remains successful and and the impact is having so far but we will go back and
and absolutely that again does that legacy stuff it does that engraining
behaviour and changing behaviour to take people in response to you but yeah
absolutely volunteers more than welcome anybody's more than welcome don't feel
like you have to stay in your own ward you can always call me we've got enough
litter pickers for everybody that's really please rest assured on that
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:32:31
Thank you for that. Councillor Haynes. Yeah, thank you for that update. One of the thingsCllr Stephanie Haynes - 0:32:38
I was going to say was, I agree with John, if the area looks smart, people won't droplitter. That's been proved, hasn't it? If you keep picking it and the lawyer looks smart.
The other thing was that if you're going to schools and then the parents say, you know,
the children go home and tell the parents don't drop litter, don't do that, don't do
It's the same as the parking when they're parking around schools so I'm sure you've already thought about that
I wanted to say what a great reporter is and what a cracking a year's work it is
and I know whenever I've contacted the fly tipping team it's dealt with quite quick
but I was just interested when you talk about you go to court
the figures added up when you... because I thought where's the missing six?
So the figures added up
but it was what's the sort of punishment that you're getting when they go into court
what's what's a typical punishment because obviously it's quite a hefty fine isn't it
so then when they go to court I presume that's worse than the fine I hope it
really depends thanks for the question it's it's out of our hands put it that
way we we tend to see sometimes smaller fines than the fixed penalties would
have been however we always put our costs on and if they're awarded we're
happier than if they're given a greater fine if you're the person that's
fly -tipped if you're paying two and a half thousand pounds in fine and costs
it's still hitting you in the pocket however that money comes back to us when
when it's cost it really depends on the severity of the incident the person's
financial situation whether they entered a guilty plea early they'll get a third
off normally off their sentence we've seen some some really good results this
year we've had a guy with he added about 135 hours of community service and lost
vehicle that we crushed and got a few thousand pounds fine and costs as well
on top of that so yeah we are seeing some good results we've been seeing some
really good results for obstruction cases as well where people have they may
it may not have been them that have flighted but they've certainly linked to
it we asked them to come and speak to us and if they don't we've seen the fines
and costs in the thousands for that as well so but they do they do take it into
that and it's a really difficult to give you to give you a one -size -fits -all
answer but yeah we are seeing some good results
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:35:18
Cllr Alan Butt - 0:35:23
Councillor Bott. I'm interested really on how we can make the private firms thatare not their fault that they've been picked out and targeted for the private
land for the fly tipping. I mean typical example for me is I live in Bushbury and
I walk through regularly from Bushbury Ward Sandon Road through the alleyway to
Marsh Lane that's a hot spot there where there's an electric box at the end there
and the fly tipping is horrendous I have reported it I'm sure it'll be dealt with
but this is regular and I don't know we have to contact I guess the electricity
people or whoever owns the land where the box is. I don't know what sort of
sanctions we put on them if they don't respond but it's a regular hotspot so
carried on walking up St. Tans Road to Ingestor into Oxley which is my ward
and then Ingestor Road to Probert Road there's an awful lot of tipping there
again and it's horrendous some sort of canisters god knows what they are and
I'm amazed just how much there is because these fences are six foot high
and they must have strong people throwing them over
is all I can think, because some of them are like
30 yards in and there must be a back wing somewhere.
Five day turnaround I guess is for ordinary fly tipping.
How about when it's a private company?
It's a difficult one I can say.
Again, you've seen how many fly tips get reported in a year.
They are the ones that, a lot of those are on council land and you have heard how they
are dealt with.
The rest of them falls and it is a good opportunity for me to champion the wider team I am in
because there are members of my team that deal with waste that is dumped on private
land and our sister team deal with wasting people's gardens and residential premises.
we get thousands and thousands of those a year and it's it's a huge undertaking
we have to write to the landowners and request that they clear it there is
legislation conserve notices on them a couple of different pieces of
legislation we generally use and if they fail to comply and keep their land clear
and we unfortunately they can often be the victim of it but it is your land
owner it's your responsibility to clear that waste so that we eventually we can
take them to court if necessary and get a remedial order from the court try and
force them into clearing that land and keeping it clear it's not an easy
process it can sometimes be a lengthy one and we can understand why the
residents get get frustrated that waste is sat there but as a rule we don't
clear waste from private land it's down to the landowners and some of them are
really cooperative and helpful and unfortunately others aren't and we have
Cllr Alan Butt - 0:38:23
to take more stringent measures against them. Thank you. One other thing I noticedyou got showing the road sweepers on there I don't know how many you've got
across the borough I keep getting asked when they're going to come to Duffcote
I don't know whether you can answer that I can tell you the one person that
always asks me then that would be helpful.
Claire Walters - 0:38:42
So we have a programme of road sweeping and if you email me the particular road I cantell you roughly when we may be there.
The issue that we do and I sort of touched on it in terms of trying to ask people to
remove their cars and things like that.
One of the issues that we do have with road sweeping is it's really hard to get a good
run when people haven't got there, you know, when people haven't moved their cars.
So one of the things as we've talked about is the digital development of the services
and the regular programmed work, not just the lovely community stuff, but the regular
programmed work is as the year progresses we will be plotting on our maps where we are
and where we're expected to be so people can see when we are coming to them to give them
more of an idea but it's really hard to get people to move their cars. The first
three weeks that we've done lovely community we give people two weeks
notice, we've knocked on their doors the day before, we've asked people to move
their cars and they still haven't done it. It's really tough in terms of the
sweeping so that's one of the things we we do encounter but there will be a
Okay
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:40:07
Claire Walters - 0:40:08
We do yeah, we do have a lot ofCllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:40:15
Okay, let's just move on a kind of sourcingCllr Jasbinder Dehar - 0:40:21
Thank You chair chair, I think this report is an excellent report and it just shows ourDedicated stuff our workforce how hard they actually work
And I mean, although you get a lot of criticism too, but it just shows how well you are actually
performing and it's particularly considering with not just that we've actually international,
but just keeping local our neighbouring councils.
Fifty -one fixed penalty notices and compared with the other three councils and we've actually
seized fire vehicles I just want to ask are these vehicles that were actually
yeah that you had them on evidence or is this or are there any other vehicles
that you haven't seized but you could have
thank you we would see normally seized vehicles if we're getting repeated
I think it was a very
difficult situation.
We had a chap
go back to
2020 when
COVID was
started.
Cllr Harbinder Singh - 0:41:33
He gotcaught fly
tipping six
times in
four weeks.
It was clear
that that sort
of situation,
let's get that
van off the
road quickly.
But a lot of
them, we
find if
they are not
registered or
they are
registered
incorrectly, it
is difficult.
It is not
always very
straightforward
investigating
these.
It can be
a long -winded process we'll go to the DVLA who's this car belong to they come
back it's not registered or it's registered elsewhere then we'll try and
find out who the insured party is for instance or on occasion believe it or
Cllr Harbinder Singh - 0:42:11
not we have actually driven past and there there's the car there on somebody'sdriveway and in those situations because we don't know who owns the car it's
registered incorrectly we'll have them off the road and then it's down to the
registered keeper to contact us to claim the vehicle back if they don't then it
becomes the council's we don't seize every vehicle that's involved in it in
flight if we do it on a proportionate basis but if we feel it's necessary yeah
we will we won't hesitate to do that
One more question.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:42:46
It's regarding Love Street Clean.Cllr Harbinder Singh - 0:42:50
So we've got some fly tipping on Woodcross Park.And residents have actually...
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:43:00
I know Councillor Bott did get into specifics, but we're trying not to get into specifics.This is just a general...
Cllr Harbinder Singh - 0:43:07
So they've actually reported but because with love street clean it just shows the house number and the roadbut on the Ashore
Map itself, it does clearly show that exactly where the fire tipping is. So it's been reported over
Over eight days now and it's still there
I've had number of emails that when when is the council going to pick this?
Fire tipping it's of course, it's excellent for what you are actually doing
but with the love Street does it actually always give the location as a
Name of the road and the house number. Can you not give anything else sir, please?
Claire thank you. So
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:43:56
Love clean streets works isClaire Walters - 0:43:58
works from a GIS systemso it maps on our highway,
what is Wolverhampton Homes land and what is private land.
Sometimes it can be,
it's not 100 % accurate, we're working on it all the time,
so when we have instances where there are borders
between the lands, it's sometimes a bit glitchy
and it can go to the wrong team
and then find its way back to us.
What I will always say is, if there are instances like that
that please go through councillor support,
that will come to the team
and the team will be able to have a look on the back end of the system and then tweak it and improve it.
We can only get the improvements done if people do tell us about these.
It's pretty accurate, it's getting more and more accurate as we do it,
but there are still areas where it's not perfect.
But if there's something that's been there eight days, if you go through Councillor Support,
they will get a hold of the team and they can look on the back end for us.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:44:57
I don't want to ask a question but I just want to thank again the how excellent thisCllr Harbinder Singh - 0:45:03
report was and the dedicated staff that we have got for you know for the council it'scommend it's really good thank you so much.
It's appreciated I'm sure.
Thank you.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:45:10
We've got one more question, Councillor Thompson.Well it's not so much a question as a quick comment.
Cllr Wendy Thompson - 0:45:17
I do agree that the figures look really heartening.A lot of our residents find it absolutely insufferable with fly tipping.
I know you Claire and also I've got to commend Alex as well because we have had a difficult issue as you know,
which I won't go into the detail about it.
And every effort I know has been made and is still being made to get this matter sorted and cleared up.
but the amount of effort from both members of staff I think should be commended and should be recognised. Thank you.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:46:05
Thank you very much. I think we have come to the end of that discussion.I've forgotten what the...
Those are formally notes of congratulations.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:46:15
Thank you.Right, congratulations once again for what you've done and if you could bring that back again that would be great.
I'm not for better news yet again but just carry on with what you're doing and thank you. Thank you very much.
And thank the team.
5 Community Safety - PSPO
Okay we're now going to move on agenda item five community safety and PSPO. I'd like to
invite Mary Jane to introduce the report. Thank you.
MaryJane Squires - 0:46:55
Thank you chair.If I may, I will break this into, although it's one presentation, I will break halfway
through the questions regarding two separate PSPOs which are proposed today.
So I'll just pause after the Bentley Bridge PSPO, take some questions so it can be properly
scrutinised and then move on to the second PSPO if that's okay with you.
So to provide panel members with an overview of the proposed public place protection order
which will contribute towards reducing violence and social behaviour within Bentley Bridge
locality.
The main aim of the PSPO is to ensure that public spaces can be enjoyed by all without
the fear of ASB.
And again, there's two conditions that need to be met with this.
So activities carried out in a public space have a detrimental effect of the quality of
life of the people in the locality.
And then that effect or likely effect of the activities is of a persistent or a continuing
nature.
So antisocial behaviour and nuisance in Bentley Bridge.
So there are three main issues that are reoccurring on a very regular basis in Bentley Bridge.
that is antisocial behaviour, violence against the person and shoplifting.
Since 2021 West Midlands police data highlights that particularly youth related incidents,
there has been an increase of over 150 % across that four year period.
And violence related offences, again insightful information that 30 % of the victims were under the age of 25.
So the social behaviour which has been occurring at Bentley Bridge has been predominantly made
up of disruptive group behaviour, intimidation of staff and the public, misuse of vehicles
and disorderly conduct.
So again there was the use of dispersal powers, mitigation for that, increased police presence,
youth engagement and diversionary efforts. So I brought to scrutiny panel
in November that we had commissioned our youth bus and youth outreach service and
Bentley Bridge is one of those locations that that is working out and they are
there right now. So the proposed PSPO is to prohibit groups of three or more
where there are groups of three more people within this restricted area that
look likely to cause nuisance disorder, harassment, alarm and distress to any
other person and this enforcement measure can demand that the group leave
the specified area and not return for a period of 24 hours. It also used the
face coverings, no person shall without a reasonable excuse wear face coverings
which conceals or partially conceals his or her identity in this restricted area.
So just here you can see some of the hotspot areas across. I know it's quite small so apologies for that.
But you can see some of the shoplifting offences and the locations of those. Aldi, JD Sports, Hollywood Bowl and generally just where it's been marked against Bentley Bridge as a whole.
Some more recent figures show that even this year from September to October during this
two month period there were 87 incidents reported across the park.
And again it all relates to shop theft, vehicle offences and ASB particularly around young
people just causing disruption, refusing to leave premises and being verbally abusive
towards staff.
So this is the area that we are proposing that the PESPO enforcement area is.
So again it covers the whole retail facility but excluding Sainsbury's I think is the one
down the bottom.
So the approach to enforcement is broken down into three layers.
So the green is the first approach.
So you receive a warning and an education regarding the restrictions and again it's
broken down into under 18 and over 18.
The AMBA is the breach so they'll receive further diversionary activity, a letter of
engagement if you're under 18 and then conversations with parent guardian.
And then the third one you will be referred into West Midlands Police ASB team and any
other diversionary and support programmes where needed and this is on a case by case
basis.
And then on the third breach of a young person over 80,
they will be assessed on a case -by -case basis,
but it could be things such as injunctions, criminal behaviour
orders, or an arrest where there is an offence which
has occurred.
The consultation.
So I wanted to flag it in.
It's not going to be on your screen here,
but the consultation is currently live,
and it's live until the end of February.
So I would encourage everybody to go and complete that
if you haven't already.
But from those findings so far, current findings to date
outline that 90 % of respondents agree
there is a problem with ASB at Bentley Bridge.
97 % agree with the proposed measures
that they will make a difference to visitors visiting
the retail park and trying to enjoy the leisure facilities.
So there are other things in terms of that package
that we're thinking around.
This is one measure.
You've got the youth violence programmes, police patrols,
neighbourhood safety team working better with businesses who are at the retail
park and the security teams that are present and then the final slide around
this is just where the future direction of travel so the consultation will
close and we'll be able to assess those findings but initially it looks really
positive towards this action being taken and I'm happy to pause their chair for
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:53:08
questions. Thank you Mary Jane for that. I noticed the figures of really highvirality and I wondered if when people were taking stuff is it food, is it
alcohol, do we know anything like that or have we just got the incidents? I don't
MaryJane Squires - 0:53:28
have that breakdown of the items that have been stolen but I can attempt tothat out but I don't know if we will mark that I mean chief intent superintendent
chief inspector Evans sorry for OT there and might be able to ask answer that
Richard Evans - 0:53:47
thank you chair it is possible to find out what property was stolen but the waythat the analysis is done wouldn't show it so all we have to do is go back and
look at the individual reports probably take a smaller number but will give us
sort of a feel as to what is being taken the trends that sit inside it I just
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:54:02
wondered if people were short of food or if it's you know alcohol driven wasn'tquite sure and I think that might be quite helpful statistic to find out about.
Cllr Ciaran Brackenridge - 0:54:17
I'd like to open things up. Councillor Brackenbridge. Thank you chair. Very fortunately andapplicably I'm the Councillor for the Bentley Bridge area, well myself and the
two other Councillors, it's not just me. The fact that the success and I know
you're gonna go through it from the city centre to here this is gonna be
brilliant for Wentzfield it's gonna be brilliant for Bentley Bridge I have not
you know I think everyone I'll put myself and us in Wentzfield against
anyone in the country for door knocking we've been knocking doors of people
especially the elderly residents who have never you can talk to them but
they've never supported us have never supported the council and they're even
they're overjoyed so it really is hitting well with the community with the
individuals that ultimately use the area the most. Just before I ask my two
questions it's my, I've got a chance to say if we could really include
measures against e -bikes and vehicles within the PSPO that would be great
that's just whilst I'm here. Now the two questions I have is how will the success
when if it's implemented how will the success be measured and how often will
the progress be reviewed. The second question I have is how are we going to
ensure that this PSPL targets ASB without unfairly affecting young people
or vulnerable groups?
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:55:39
MaryJane Squires - 0:55:42
Thank you. Yes I was pleased that you were here as thisbeing in your ward. Any enforcement action is going to be
That is the key message we want to put forward.
This is more around seeking and learning to understand.
When we are engaging with a young person, in particular, it is around understanding
why is it they are here, what is it they are doing and how can we divert them into something
a little bit more useful.
All that enforcement is going to be through the layered approach and working with families
as well where there is repeat young people there on a regular basis, hence why they detached
being at Bentley Bridge, so it's their Thursday, Friday, Saturday this week and then extended
over half term. There is so many resources available to them from that service, so many
referral pathways that they can be provided and supported to attend crucially, because
there's no point handing something out if you can't actually support them to get there
feasibly
So there's a lot around it and that whole approach. It's not just we're going to enforce it. It's an element of trying to
Reduce their number of incidents occurring and the measures will be a number of incidents
Discussions of feedback from the businesses and retailers. So we're in regular conversation with all of the businesses and retailers
Bentley bridge that will be another measure
Measure of the crimes reports that we get through and then regular feedback from our detached outreach
So all of these in a package will be reviewed. We review it weekly monthly and quarterly
It's a very regular and because it's one of our hotspot areas. There's a lot of
What yeah, we're all over it. Hope that answers that
Okay, thank you for that counsellor Haynes
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:57:38
Yeah, the other thing I was going to mention, when you talked about, obviously we've gotCllr Stephanie Haynes - 0:57:43
the enforcement side of things, but you said there were other measures in place.Now I seem to remember at a meeting we had recently when we talked about the bus.
I presume that's what we're, what you're talking about, that's what's going to go down there,
down onto Bentley Bridge for what Councillor Brackenbridge has mentioned about the youth,
that we will engage with them down there.
Thank you.
MaryJane Squires - 0:58:05
Yes, the bus is not out this week, the bus is coming, it's on its way, but there is feeton the ground from multiple partners, as I outlined.
So they're there right now.
We've also got our neighbourhood safety team out there.
So Laura, who actually wrote this report,
has done all of the consultation, fantastic work
with police and business partners.
She has really led and done a really, really good, really,
really good job.
So yeah, they're actually there now.
And again, it's really interesting being there
and speaking to people where a lot of this behaviour
is underreported as well.
A lot of the stats are not reported, so this is just a drop in the ocean, this reporting,
because it is a very, very frequent event at Bentley Bridge.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:58:49
Presumably, the template from the city, the PSPO, would be helpful for when you're goingto Bentley Bridge.
Would there be some similarities, do you think?
Absolutely, yes.
MaryJane Squires - 0:59:02
It is a like for like.and the successes that we've brought to scrutiny previously outline those reductions.
So yeah, we hope that with this full multi agency approach that we can make those even
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 0:59:17
higher reductions. Thank you. Thank you. Chief Inspector Evans, is there any comments thatyou'd like to make on this?
Richard Evans - 0:59:24
Just had a little bit of to what's been said in relation to Councillor Brackenby's questionabout how do we monitor it? I'll try and keep this picture but West Midlands police have
recently introduced something called
Neighbourhood Problem Solving Plans. The intention of that is sort of to bring a
professionalised approach to the management of persistent issues of ASB
through a problem -solving approach that's there. Bentley Bridge has passed
through our local governance process for that and has been deemed suitable for
one of these plans to be allocated to it so it's discussed at a joint meeting with
myself, Mayor Jones and her staff in relation to the progress and in order
for us to be able to close that under the Home Office Counting guidelines
we need to refer to the type of data that MJ has described where we
need to show reduction to show that they've been successful on top of the
stuff that's happening within the local authority there are local measures
within the police to ensure that the issue is addressed properly otherwise it
can't be ignored. I would stress that on a personal level again in relation to
some of the comments I'm very much in favour of keeping children away from the
that will be the brief that's given to officers as it was in the city and other
than you know I think MJ's the last thing for speaking to MJ the problem
appears to be worse than we thought it was once we have feet on the ground
because the issues of under representation of the issue so I just
think that speaks to the nature as much as anything else more than we're even
aware of before
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:00:52
Cllr Wendy Thompson - 1:00:59
What we don't seem to have is indication of the ages. I know you said there are some olderones. What are the youngest ones that are involved in this and what liaison is going
to go on with the parents and how many NEETs are involved in this? Because when there's
all this kind of antisocial behaviour going on from a young age group. When they've got
school the next day usually, or they're in colleges or they're in training, and the parents
are responsible and not happy when their offspring are brought back to them, if that happens
very often or indeed at all and schools would, responsible schools would
certainly have a lot of liaison with parents with regard to their
responsibilities with their children. So what is happening with the
younger children and I'm thinking of them rather than the older ones who
unfortunately there's no youth provision over in Wentzfield, it was
removed and sadly I'm afraid the churches because of the Children's Act
have found it much more difficult to actually run the youth groups that they
used to which is which is very sad because a lot of us certainly have
experience in our teen years that that we would be involved in all kinds of
youth organisations but can you just give us an indication of where the
parents come into this and the youth of the children involved and the possible involvement
with the schools as well. Because if we've got children who are into this kind of behaviour,
they could well be playing up in schools as well and we need to nip this sort of thing
in the bud before it gets any worse and they really do go into proper criminal behaviour.
Thank you.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:03:07
MaryJane Squires - 1:03:10
Thank you, Mary Jean. Thank you, thank you. So yeah absolutely thanks for yourquestions and comments. So the breakdown type of the young person, so as you can
see the high proportion of the anti -social behaviour at Bentley Bridge
is of those of under 18. The breakdown of those ages, I'll have to come back to you
on that specifically. In terms of the parental involvement, each enforcement
level of the PSPO is with parent and family or guardianship involved, so we
would contact the young person's family and we would go through that whole
enforcement approach with them. We also are working locally with all of the
local secondary schools around the area so Laura, who's led on this, has taken
this into every secondary school within the within Wensfield and surrounding
areas and she's also then going to be feeding back information where we do
know from detached or any of our other intel lines of repeat young people
within the area they will come back and their name will be discussed with their
local school and thank you and I just wanted to that's okay reply about the
e -bikes so that that would be separate PSPO that wouldn't fall under this
current PSPO but to reassure you there is a lot of work going on ready for the
summer period to do things around e -bikes, e -scooters and off -road bikes so
there is a big operations that we have planned and we've been intelligence
gathering over the winter months people going into properties who for
another reason if I see an off -road bike in the front room they're now reporting
that so we're really gathering that intelligence to be able to make sure the
right enforcement can be delivered where they're out on the roads again during
the summer periods so there is a lot going on with that as well. Thank you
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:04:59
Cllr Ciaran Brackenridge - 1:05:05
Thank You Mary Jane did you want to ask another question? No I just wanted to give out to the youth services provision by St. Thomas's Church, Welland, Goodwara, Rensfield Library, the Hub in Mashama Park, especially with the Councillor Batemans and the Councillor Reiter Potty from the Ashmore Park area as well. I think Rensfield can be very proud of the youth provision we provide.Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:05:21
Cllr Wendy Thompson - 1:05:31
I would be grateful for more information on that because we have no youth provision inour area of Wolverhampton at all and it's interesting that it's happening in this part
of Wolverhampton that Councillor Brackenridge represents and we would plainly like to know
more about it and why it is that there seem to be some deserts when it's happening there.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:05:53
So maybe if you pass that information on to Councillor Thompson.Thank you.
Er, Earl.
Thank you, Chair.
Earl Piggott Smith - 1:06:02
Just to, um, referring to page 47 of the report, just in terms of the escalation policy, sowe've obviously got the first, second, the red one.
if it's a serious incident, would it go automatic to red
or how would that work?
And also where people are involved
to different incidents, are they collected
or do the person go back to green?
If it's a new incident but the same person,
how does it actually work, whether it's actually involved
in a separate incident?
Does it get to the red or follow that process?
Did perhaps explain that?
Thank you, chair.
Shamsher Zada - 1:06:43
If you look at page 47, the first initial one is the first breach itself.When there is a repetition of that, it goes on the second one which is Amber and if it
continues then it is third.
So I think that hopefully answers your question
Quite if this for example if a serious incident would it automatically be?
Earl Piggott Smith - 1:07:10
Read or regardless of the the contents of the incident. It'll go through those stages. I just there's a clarification on that thingDo you like to pick that up?
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:07:18
Yeah, I think it's again it's this sensible approachMaryJane Squires - 1:07:20
It's a sensible approach that each incident is taken of coursethere is a criminal element to that then that would be bypassing all of this
enforcement and would be reported to the police directly but in terms of that
green amber red it would be going on through the stages of that enforcement
process. I hope that answers the question thank you.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:07:42
Thank you. I think we're going to leave it there now. I have a proposer for this.Thank you. Seconder? Thank you. Those in favour? Great. If you could bring this back in three
months time, thank you, in three months time that would be really useful because I think
it'll be starting fairly soon. And I think rather than what we had before when we had
the PSPO, it seemed to take quite a long time for feedback. I think that's important that
Shamsher Zada - 1:08:15
keep that monitored. Thank you chair it might be worth discussing this withyourself and the vice chair and the forward planning of it as well just to
make sure that we've got and we've got adequate time to discuss this so if
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:08:32
that's something that we can pick up outside of that meeting. Okay fine thank you.Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:08:36
We are going to move on.I think we are just going to take a few moments.
Are we all right?
Great.
Thank you.
Back to you, Mary -Jane.
Thank you.
Thank you, chair.
MaryJane Squires - 1:08:49
I am happy to bring that back.What is important to consider is that because of the variety of things that we are doing,
it is not just a one enforcement approach with all of the other components,
The results will be made up of all of these things that's contributing factors
So individually PSPO we can give you the numbers of how many green amber Reds have been
Distributed but in terms of the statistics and what with that what the contributing factor was
It will be that whole approach
But yeah, okay. We're moving on to city centre PSPO. So this I won't go through the definitions again
So, anti -social behaviour and nuisance in Wolverhampton city centre.
These are some of the issues that we have currently got in the city centre.
People openly drinking alcohol on the street, people openly injecting drugs, people sleeping
in doorways, begging openly taking place, e -scooters and e -bikes being used in public
places, which potentially endanger pedestrians and people using large speakers playing loud
music and public areas.
So you can see the data here are showing a steady increase in antisocial behaviour of
this kind.
We did a Chris Gelliman who has led the city centre PSPO who is the neighbourhood safety
officer for the west and city centre, has done a great job.
He's done an initial questionnaire with businesses and as you can see here all of the issues
outlined above are things that they have reported back as part of that
questionnaire. So the public place protection order Wolverhampton proposal
which is proposed that this PSPO would include the following conditions
prohibiting, possessing or consuming an intoxicating substance within the
restricted area, the consumption of alcohol within the restricted
restricted area, persistent loitering or aggressive begging in a manner that is like causes or
likely to cause harassment, alarm, distress, nuisance or annoyance, public urination, individuals
restricted from blocking doorways containing fire exits, individuals from using amplified
equipment, musical instruments and other items and then the use of an e -bike or e -scooter
than the restriction zone. So this is the proposal of the area that this PSPO will
cover. So we have taken this so it covers to the end of ASDA. ASDA is included in
this PSPO as well as Wolverhampton train station and bus station. This also
includes as you can see from the image, I know it's quite small apologies, St.
Johns retail park and Sainsbury's Wolverhampton are also included within
this space. So the enforcement around this is one which we know that there are
lots of vulnerable people that would fall into the category of causing some
of this antisocial behaviour and we recognise that this enforcement approach
has to be supportive, we have to be supporting these young people and adults
that may need some further support.
So first breach, the person is made aware of the PSPO
and then support is offered and referrals
into some of our support services
that are doing a brilliant job within the city,
Recovering EU, P3, Good Shepherd and Refending to Recovery.
The second breach, the person is offered support
and referral to the relevant agency,
but also in addition receive a formal warning
containing specific details of the breach and advised what will happen with
further action. Then the third breach could be some of our enforcement options
such as fixed penalty notice, community protection warnings or possible
injunctions. But enforcement is on a case -by -case basis again being
proportionate and sensible in all of our approaches. And this we've discussed this
in great detail with public health to ensure that we are being fair and
supportive as part of this and they are also have endorsed this approach to
ensure that this support is the main element of us enforcing the PSPO. I didn't
put it on the slide but just to give you an indication of the consultation
findings so far, 83 % of respondents to the CERC consultation which is currently
open until the end of this month, 83 % of respondents have either experienced or
Witnessed a SP in the city centre of the ASB that we've described
95 % of respondents agree with the proposal
85 % agree with the enforcement measures proposed and then a question which I know
Councillor Haynes was particularly keen that I that we insured around how people feel about safety within the city centre
So we included that as a question within the survey and out of the respond
Respondees over 50 % of them were women a large proportion preferred not to say just about some context
During daytime safety over 50 % feel safe being a city centre during the day
But at nighttime that changes to 75 % of them feeling very unsafe in our city centre at night
I'm happy to take any questions. Thank you
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:14:33
Thank you for that. Councillor Brackenbridge.Cllr Ciaran Brackenridge - 1:14:41
Thank you chair. Just also give a shout out to the scouts in Rensfield as well.Very quickly when it comes to this. So it's something I've actually just noticed, it's
on page 57. I didn't notice it when I was at home. But it's the bullet point about persistent
begging. Now when it comes to the topic of begging it is very sensitive. I
think even the greatest community worker, the greatest pacifist community worker in
the world would also know there's a line there and I think there's some I think
there's broad agreement across the spectrum of how people are, how nice
people, how giving people are that begging there is a line. Now I'm really
So although I understand there's a line, I'm really...
I don't use the word concerned.
I'm really fixated on the end of the bullet point where it says nuisance and annoyance.
Because the fact is I can imagine there's going to be
many people out there who when the beggar comes up to them
and very nicely says I'm in a lot of trouble here, please can you help?
I can imagine there's people out there who see that as an annoyance
and see that as a nuisance. So even the people out there who are in a desperate
situation and are in desperate need of begging, who come across as nice as
possible, I can imagine people out there saying no that's a nuisance. So like I said
I don't use the word concerned but I'm I'm really not a fan of nuisance or
annoyance because I can imagine people out there who are desperate being caught
up in this when they have no ill intention.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:16:17
MaryJane Squires - 1:16:20
I think the key thing the message is that it's proportionate and sensible.You know a lot of these individuals within our city centre will be known and a lot of
these individuals again we try to encourage the public to do alternative giving.
There are other ways to donate financially but everything will be taken, every enforcement
measure will be taken with that sensible approach in mind.
It's not the first time someone's and seem to be a nuisance or annoying that they will be issued an enforcement
It will be taken on a very individual basis and by our enforcement authorities being the place
What to have another question
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:17:01
Cllr Ciaran Brackenridge - 1:17:04
It's just a conclusion point because I think you've you've reassured me and I understand the intentions of Westminster Police and the councilWill be the intentions that I align with
I just repeat, but just a final comment, I'm just worried that I can imagine somebody in a desperate situation going up to a few people saying can you really help me out?
And it could be just a bad day where the three or four people that person's come up to are people who aren't the greatest people anyway.
And I just really can see and I really hope that even somebody who's begging with the best of intentions with no animosity at all.
I just don't want a police officer or an enforcement officer saying we've got four reports about you.
Because this person is going to be down on their luck.
You know that's the last thing they need. It could be something that tips that beggar over the edge.
So I just I think it is a important point to raise.
I have trust in the council and West Midlands Police but I just I really hope that something iron clad can be introduced to ensure that
Even the most polite people down on the look aren't tipped over the edge by people
Going over the top with complaints
better gene
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:18:18
MaryJane Squires - 1:18:22
Yeah, and just to reassure you some more the first level of enforcement is supportSo if that person has fought on four occasions by bad luck
you know and
Communicated with four different people and it's been seen as a nuisance. The first thing that's gonna happen
Is that gonna be offered support they're gonna be offered. What is the need? What's the issue? Why are you begging?
Let let's support you what are your needs and complexities and that is the first layer of enforcement
So I say enforcement's a very scary word, but that first layer
Is fully support?
Sham
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:18:58
Shamsher Zada - 1:19:01
Thank you just to add to Mary Jane's answer I think what this addresses isthe aggressive begging rather than the persistent begging so the persistent is
around the loitering aspect this is more around the aggressive begging where it
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:19:21
could potentially cause a nuisance. Thank you that's reassuring actually.All right, Councillor Haynes.
Yeah, MJ, thanks a lot.
Cllr Stephanie Haynes - 1:19:30
You knew that it was gonna come back.And thank you for the,
admitting to the disappointing figures, to be honest,
because 50 % during the day is not good, 75 % at night.
It's not good at all, is it,
when we are desperately trying to up
Wolverhampton City Centre and we've got the halls
and we've got all, you know,
we're trying to recover I suppose. So I suppose it's really, and I'm sure you have, got lots
of ideas of how we're going to bring that, what is quite a high figure of 75 % down. I
get that it's the perception at the end of the day and it's about how people perceive
it and we've got obviously a lot of work to do in order to change that round but I just
wondered if you've got any ideas of what we are going to do, I'm sure you've been working
closely with the police for it of what we are going to do to try and get that
perception down because whether it's actually like that or people think it
is. Thank you. Just to caveat the response numbers at the moment are fairly low so
MaryJane Squires - 1:20:30
it's a couple of hundred we've had so far so 75 % seems a lot but I yeah but itis a low response at the moment. But what I would add is there's a significant
amount of work going on internally and across partners around what our
Approaches for a safer city centre and a safer nighttime economy and to feed those perceptions of crime and perceptions of safety
so we've got a lot that we are finalising at the moment and
Next to the panel and I commit to coming back with what that outline is
But there was much more around that safety of women and girls agenda
We are considering what we're doing particularly on Friday and Saturday nights
To make people feel that little bit safer whilst they're out in the evening
do you want to come in from a police point of view?
Richard Evans - 1:21:21
So I think the answer is, well the first thing to consider is the city centre is a very differentplace in the day than at night. A lot of the stuff that's mentioned here I think will,
if you know, if it goes through and is successful will go a considerable distance to removing
the concerns that people say that exist, you know, on street drinking, on street drug taking,
urination and defecation in the street which comes out as a top three which is quite startling
really in terms of third one that that's something that exists so that's
important in terms of the nighttime economy as Mary Jane has said there's
been there's lots of plans going on at the moment but there's also lots of
activity that's taken place over the winter for the community safety
partnership we up the police in response to the nighttime economy we got the
support that was there at the moment there's really successful operation just
last week earlier this week when Robert Williams came to me saw the police
and lots of other tactics deployed which is really unusual but I think the key
for people 75 % is a startling figure but will probably be echoed in lots of other
areas throughout the country because the general perception of women at night is
that it's not a safe place to walk around so we have to be there be present
but also tell people about the stuff that we're doing to try and share that
good news and try and make people feel more comfortable.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:22:38
All right, Councillor Singh. Thank you, Chair.Cllr Harbinder Singh - 1:22:42
Chair, I just want to add, the question is, is this in relation or is this anything todo with the increasing footfall that we are actually having in our city centre compared
to what we used to have? Could that be a factor of this kind of behaviours
that we're actually having. Thank you.
MaryJane Squires - 1:23:06
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:23:08
MaryJane Squires - 1:23:09
I'll have to cheque whether we have got an increased footfall, but that's not as we are aware right now.But I'll come back to you with that, if Shan wants to come in.
Shamsher Zada - 1:23:18
Yeah, thank you, Jay, if it's okay with you. I think at the moment, I don't think we have the data as to whether it's related to the increase in footfall or not.but naturally what my personal view is the more people you have in the city that the more likely that there will be a
large proportion or
More number of people that may potentially and engage in this behaviour
But as I said, that's my personal opinion. I don't think we have that data, but we can look into it
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:23:52
Okay, I wondered by if there'd be any lessons learned from other areas who'veAlso hot PSPOs.
MaryJane Squires - 1:24:03
Yes, so we've done a big exercise of looking at what other local authorities are doing and a lot of them,particularly in the black country, have very similar PSPOs in place.
They're mixed in terms of how successful they are, but I think how we want to ensure that we are doing everything we can
is this partnership, so multiple things that we've got going on.
So these measures that we're talking around safety in the night -time economy and safety
in the daytime, these measures that we'll bring back to scrutiny will complement the
PSPO.
There are lots of things happening across a broader picture, so we're committing that
this is just one element of a much larger piece of work that we're doing to offer that
assurance to the public that our city centre is safe.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:24:51
Okay, thank you for that. I think we'll round things up there now and first of all I'd liketo find out if we have a proposer for this document. We get a seconder? Thank you. All
in favour? Okay, once again I'd like you to bring this back in a few months, but maybe
the same as the other PC PSP hope I have you bring that back as well before
finishes chief inspector Evans is there any comment that you'd like to make no
thank you I've just appreciated the invite to be here and hopefully I'll see
you again I do hope so very welcome okay
6 Wolverhampton Homes ASB update
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:25:35
Okay, we'll move on to agenda item six, Wolverhampton Homes ASB update. I'd like to invite AngelaBarnes, Director of Homes and Communities and Claire Gwynn, ASB Service Manager, Wolverhampton
Homes to present the report.
Angela Barnes - 1:25:57
Thank you, Chair. Thank you. So Claire is going to talk us through the main body ofreport but we just wanted to outline the purpose obviously was to provide the
panel with a overview of the services provided by Wolverhampton Homes to
explain the recent updates in relation to the anti -social behaviour policy and
the introduction of a good neighbour charter, present ASB reporting trends and
to highlight the improvements that are being made in terms of a dashboard that
will support the reporting of those trends and highlight the case outcomes. We very much
focus on non -legal tools but obviously outlining the action that's taken from a legal perspective
where proportionate and showcase the work, particularly the prevention and intervention
team, which is a fairly new initiative in Wolverhampton Homes that aims to respond to
very complex cases or those cases that have a longer a longer impact in terms
of individual and community impact and just as a report on the regulator of
social housing inspectors inspection findings the council has recently gone
through so I'll hand over to Claire thank you chair
Just following up on what Angela said, on slide 3 I'm going to give a little bit more
Claire Gwynne - 1:27:24
detail around the ASB policy and the review that's taking place.So the policy has recently been refreshed to align it with current legislation, regulatory
standards and the local priorities.
It's been developed in partnership with Community Safety Partnership.
It's been benchmarked against the regulator of social housing, best practise and standards
across the sector.
It's compliant, it covers ASB, the Common Policing Act, the statutory definition of
crime and it has a victim -centred practise.
As part of the policy we've designed something called the Good Neighbour Charter which we've
launched in tandem and this sets out the expectations on acceptable behaviours, mutual respect and
hopefully will promote early resolution and encourage neighbours to have those
conversations before they come to Warhampton homes and ask us to get
involved in any neighbour disputes. So we've just added a little bit of information
around the figures, the cases that come into the service. So between April 1st
and the end of January we've had 2 ,193 cases reported
into us just for a little bit of context as well looking and comparison to last
year's reports is at an increase of around 300 cases over the same period
which is around 30 extra cases per month detailed the top three priorities for us
which is the verbal abuse noise and drugs domestic abuse is relatively low in
comparison but obviously it's important that we deal with that quickly and just
for clarity as well and we've included the figures for the hate crimes which is
around 48 for the same period so the rising demand in the service means that
we are working with our victims that reporting to us around hate crime to sign
post them to correct support such as remedy and to work in tandem in
partnership with the police to deal with these cases.
In order to us to deliver data driven service we've now developed the AHB dashboard. It's
been slowly developed and finally has become in fruition in about a month ago so we've
to use the data from the dashboard to identify seasonal patterns, sudden spikes and entrenched
issues and use that data to put together projects to deal with the issues. For context the dashboard
has been quite early intervention so we've only just recently started to use it for such
projects but as you can see on the slide it's giving you a little bit of
information as to what we can pull out from the dashboard. It's not a very good
picture but we've took a little bit of a snapshot of the ward based data that we
can also pull from the dashboard so we'll use the data and drum down
specific issues in each ward so we can use, highlight the localised hot spots
and patterns, use the data to develop ward -based projects and interventions. Using that data
we will then deploy officers working in partnership with police and community safety team to identify
any entrenched issues and develop early intervention. This predominantly is carried out by our PIP
team, which I'll go into a little bit more detail in the next few slides, to work closely
with Community Safety team to identify the issues and reduce them in the areas.
Just wanted to put a little bit of information about the tools and powers
that we use to deal with ASB. So mediation we do use significantly and
offer to a majority of our victims that come into the service because we think
it's a effective first -line tool that we can use, prevents escalation and also
offers that opportunity for people to have those controlled conversations.
Service is delivered by an external company and it focuses on early
facilitated conversations to reduce repeat demand. It protects the community
cohesion and is also linked to the Good Neighbour Agreement which I'll go into a
little bit more detail in a moment. For the majority of customers
understanding each other and the impact of their behaviour on each other can be
powerful tool. Again just to complement that obviously we the case managers
always carried out with the the want for non -legal action resolutions such as
mediation, joint visits and referrals to other partners. However the use of NOSF
notice seeking possession and other legal tools such as injunctions we do
use obviously if all interventions have failed and so we just wanted to
obviously provide a bit of context around the notice seeking possessions.
They are a final way of resolving issues because everything that we do has to be
proportionate. We will always offer warnings, acceptable behaviour contracts,
mediation in the first instance but where it's necessary we will use legal
actions such as taking possession of people's properties. Again, I just wanted to give you a bit of information
around safeguarding within the team. So safeguarding outcomes reflect a
multi -agency coordination for victims and vulnerable perpetrators. Early
intervention and identification of vulnerabilities trigger
tailored interventions such as support, referrals into schools and other
services to try and break the cycle of anti -social behaviour and just for a little bit of context
even though the figures look quite low if any of our cases come into us by our external
partners they will have already done the safeguarding element.
As we've detailed quite a lot we've got a newly formed team the prevention team we shorten
to the PIP team. It has been piloted to strengthen early intervention and intervention where
ASB trends are emerging and the pilot has confirmed that there's a need for the team.
It's data driven and the model has been really successful. So the team is quite small, it's
made up of the team leader, three ASB officers and two assistants and we work very closely
with the community safety team to develop projects which will identify trends around
ASB particularly with perpetrators and work with perpetrators and other organisations
to reduce that issue.
Very high collaboration between our internal teams as well as our tenancy teams who take
a lot of joint action around if a customer's got rent arrears or any tenancy breaches so
we have approaches targeted around that. The issues are for the majority of the time entrenched
within families so there's a heavy focus on working with a whole array of agencies to
the issues. It's part of the work we've been doing recently just following on with MJ what
Mary Jane's just been advising and the group around the public space protection order.
We've been going into the local schools just to highlight that we can work with the schools
to provide early intervention and the PICC team have approached the schools that are
to Bentley Bridge and ask them if they would benefit from us doing some targeted support
work with any groups that they identify. So that can be either individual young people
or it can be year groups. We're currently working with each of the schools to develop
a bespoke project for each school which will be around education, what constitutes ASB
and highlighting to young people which some of them may not be aware that if they live
within the vicinity the Bentley Bridge area that it can affect their parents
tendencies so sometimes that could be a really powerful tool when they know that
their behaviour could potentially impact on the family homes so this project if
it's successful we will look to roll it out across the city so it is it is a
pilot at the moment
the next.
Angela Barnes - 1:36:26
Jerry, if it's okay with you, I'll pick this element up.Thank you.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:36:31
Angela Barnes - 1:36:32
So many people around the table will be aware that recently the City Council has been inspectedby the regulator of social housing.
in terms of the services, in terms of housing related services. We were very, very pleased to hear that the regulator found that the Council, I'm just going to read the quote, excuse me while I go backwards,
that the inspection found that the council had an effective approach to
addressing antisocial behaviour and hate crime through the Safer
Wolverhampton Partnership and that it meets its regulatory requirements. I think
we were also very pleased to see, although they did recognise there were some
improvements to be made, we had already recognised those improvements and
obviously were working towards them so that was a very positive thing. There was
nothing in the findings of the regulator that came as a surprise to us in the ASB
space so I think that gave us quite a lot of reassurance and working very
closely obviously with Mary Jane and the team to have a forward plan in terms of
looking at those improvements. We have listed what the regulator identified and
part of obviously coming to this panel and other forums is to make the visibility of
the antisocial behaviour service much more apparent so that there's clarity around what
we're doing, how we're doing it, our approach to antisocial behaviour and how it very much
fits in with all the other partner agencies around the SWP table. So obviously you can
read that you leisure so from a recommendations point we're asking
panel to note the presentation and obviously we welcome comments and
questions in relation to the approach that's being laid out but also to agree
to regular as a minimum twice yearly updates in terms of the antisocial
behaviour service that Wolverhampton homes provides on behalf of the City
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:38:47
can so thank you. Thank you very much for the two -pronged presentation it'sreally useful I was quite impressed with actually going into schools because I
think inevitably it's the children that suffer but also they sometimes exhibit a
lot of behaviour maybe going on at home so I think that's really brilliant to
actually go into the schools and find out how these young children are kind of
coping or not coping with what's going on.
So I think that's commendable.
Anybody from the panel who'd like to ask any questions?
No, seems everybody's happy.
So I think the recommendations will go.
Okay, we'll go ahead with those.
Who would like to second?
Thank you.
So, proposal, jump the gun here.
Proposer and seconder
Thank you all agreed
Thank you very much straight forward that's good. Thank you
7 You Said – We Did – Work Programme 205- 2026
We're not moving on to the what programme
2025
2026 you said we did update I'd like to invite L pickett -smith scrutiny officer to present the report
The report is for members' information. There is obviously the next scheduled meeting
Earl Piggott Smith - 1:40:10
on the 12th of February and the 19th of March. So we've had some changes to the order ofthe agenda in terms of the homeless item which was scheduled for today's meeting but agreed
with the chair, vice chair to be deferred until the March meeting.
So it is as scheduled on the report. There are some actions arising from the conversations
today and they will be included in the action tracker document which is attached for members'
information and comment. Just say there are some long -standing items for future
items but again that may well be again to be scheduled into the panel's work
programme once the dates have been agreed by an annual council they'll be in a
position to actually schedule those in but obviously I've noticed Angela's
comments around coming to the report so again that will be added to the long
list of programmes and they'll be scheduled in at the time and it may
actually be helpful to coincide with the information for Mary Jane's work because
Again, there's similar types of issues around the ASB topic
and I can think it'd be sensible
to try and coordinate those around.
But obviously we can have a separate discussion
with the chair, vice chair,
to see what will be the best way of presenting information.
Is there for information and comment, chair?
Any comments, sorry?
No, okay, that's agreed.
Cllr Barbara McGarrity QN - 1:41:23
I'd like to thank everybody for their contributions,for the members, for their contribution,
and the officers for their reports.
also to Erle and Martin. Thank you very much, the meeting's closed.
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